Wednesday, September 08, 2004

1000!

Hey...
the number 1000 had come in front of my eyes twice today, so i decidedd to write somethign about it...
first time, most of you already know it, is that today the total sum of american soldures killed iniraq become 1000 person, it measn we have 1000 grieving mother, one thousand crying wife, or maybe one thousand orphan, and thousands of sad friends.
all of the soldures, and their beloved ones, are victums of the decission of one sick person.
the other 1000, is the unread emails in mom's email account.
hmmm, i would love to chat with you, if you are interested, add me to your msn messenger as khalidjarrar@hotmail.com or to yahoo messenger as khalidjarrar
thank you..
me*

35 Comments

#9/09/2004 12:27:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger Najma

I have a problem with people writing the word SOLDIER wrongly... AAAH.. My uncle once did it, and he kept saying, A solder did this and a solder did that..
Now you're writing a soldure, it makes as much sense as a solder.. But they're both wrong.. SOLDIER is the right spelling.

And I have a Gmail invitation with 1000MB for you.. Do you want it? I'm talking seriously.

 
#9/09/2004 01:22:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger madtom

So wrong, Each member of the US armed service is a volunteer, so none of the 1000 fallen brothers are _a victim_ of any other persons decisions.
You guys got that market cornered
Now I will grant you , Bush is a sick puppy.

Madtom

 
#9/09/2004 01:27:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger Khalid

khajjalteeni najma sh.saweti biyya, you could have emailed me at least:)))
its not my fault really, its the stupid spell check that didnt say anything, maybe he was drunk:))
me*

 
#9/09/2004 02:44:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger ihath

Khalid,
How many contacts do you have on your IM list? I hope it is not 1000.

 
#9/09/2004 04:23:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger Khalid

:)) no one can chat to as much people at the same time as i can:)))
in the peek time it gets crazy, but usually i love to keep chatting with one or two max:)
is there over 1000 contacts?
i will let you know when i sign in;)
me*

 
#9/09/2004 06:48:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger Alvaro Frota

To MadTom:

You really know why an american enlists the Army? Of course, you know. You guys know everthing and allways you are right...

But... what about this?

"COMBAT JACK"
CBFTW enlisted in the Army because, as he says,“I needed a fucking job, and at the time nobody would hire me, so I said fuck it, I’m going Infantry.” Upon graduating Basic Training from Fort Benning, Georgia, his orders sent him to Fort Lewis Washington, where he was then a part of the Army’s first Mobile Elite Stryker Brigade. After a couple months of showing up to 06:00 PT formations completely hung over and sometimes still drunk from the night before, his ass was sent to Iraq in 2003 where he has been conducting combat operations and has been placed on countless demoralizing details ever since. So far he’s been Stop Lossed and had both his R&R to Qatar and his mid tour leave cancelled. The following post is from CBFTW’s Field Journal when he was in Kuwait. His blog, “MY WAR” is at http://cbftw.blogspot.com

Aquele abraco!

Alvaro Frota

 
#9/09/2004 07:24:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Jeffrey, Jeffrey, Jeffrey!! Calm down!! I don't think Khalid meant anything by his comments. I took it that Khalid is sad about the 1000 deaths...he's not happy about it!

Connie

 
#9/09/2004 07:32:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger Alvaro Frota

To Jeffrey:

Why you are so angry? Soldiers are paid to kill and, of course, to die. Nobody has the right to complain about this.

By the way, the real number of USA fatalities is far from 1.000. And the causalities is far from the admitted 7.000. Pentagon is lying to american.

But, of course, average americans only believes in that appears in their TV.

Aquele abraço!

Alvaro Frota

 
#9/09/2004 08:24:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

But Jeffrey don't you think the angryer(is that a word? angryier? I don't know) YOU get the happier the TERRORIST get? I won't give them that satisfaction.

 
#9/09/2004 08:25:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

that anynomous was me by the way...

Connie

 
#9/09/2004 08:28:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger CharlesWT

More accurately, the following should read:

“I needed a fucking job, and at the time nobody would hire me [for the kind of job I would like to have], so I said fuck it, I’m going Infantry.”

 
#9/09/2004 12:24:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Jeffrey --

Yeah! Death to the Yanks! And the killing of the Russian kids was super enjoyable and a mega victory! Whooo, can't wait for the next 9-11 ! I want more blood!

As usual, your mindless vitriol cracks me up.

Despite all your professed intelligence, I still cannot understand why you do not see that there are two sides to the story. I cannot understand how you believe such a simplistic theory of Muslims killing themselves in suicide bombings because they "hate freedom". Perhaps the reason why Iraqis are killing US servicemen is the same reason that would cause Americans to kill Soviet troops in the US.

Perhaps it is because they LOVE freedom that they are fighting you in Iraq.

And, the fact that you automatically lump the Chechens into your worldwide plot by Muslims to kill all infidels (there! I said the word! Watch Jeff catch a hernia.) shows me that you do not really want to know the deeper issues for this conflict. The Chechens, for example, have been fighting the Russians for a long, long time. Ever ask yourself *why* they stoop to such vile tactics? Do you even *want* to know?

I don't think so ... your way is much easier.

--Bruno--

 
#9/09/2004 02:33:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger Khalid

Hahaha, very funny Bruno, haha.
Jeff, first, a man is a man by his credibility, didnt you promise not to coment here anymore?
secon, i agree, this war, the war against USA, is a war for freedom, for the love of freedom, for the sake of freedom, [here add a third sentenc that ends with freedom, i cant think of one now]
thank you.
me*

 
#9/09/2004 06:13:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger Alvaro Frota

To Jeffrev:

Do I support the killing of the American troops? Of course not. My claim is for withdraw of the American troops. By withdrawing, they won't be killed anymore.

By claiming the continuity of occupation, you do support the killing of American troops. And you also support the killing of the Iraqi civilians.

You wrote in another thread that you know everthing about military. But, Mister "Sabe Tudo", you don't know just the basic:

"In a war, soldiers are paid to kill and to die."Therefore, you, and no American, have the right to inculpate Iraqi resistance by the killing of American troops.

Try to inculpate Bush and the strangelove's neocon guys for this. And, by the way, the number of fatalities is far bigger from 1000, but you don't complain about the lies they are telling you.

About the Beslan stuff, you just don't see that it's very convenient to Bush election and, of course, you just don't ask question about who is supporting these terrorists.

How old are you, boy? You seems to be a kid that doesn't grow up enought to have a rational think. If a Iraqi child becomes orphan, you cheers. If an American soldier becomes a free soul, you scold. Grow up to reality.

Aquele abraço!

Alvaro Frota

 
#9/09/2004 06:16:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger neurotic_wife

My god Jeffrey, I have never felt so much hatred coming out from anyone. If you, the educated guy who lives in a democratic country thinks this way, then why should we blame the people who never knew the meaning of the word freedom?

 
#9/09/2004 06:38:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger Alvaro Frota

You've only seen one-tenth of my deep anger against terrorism. I've seen it up close and personal. It will change you. You hate terrorism? Just try to realize who are the greatest terrorist of the whole world and kill he...

AF

 
#9/09/2004 06:39:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Khalid,

Jeffrey brought up a good point that I have been meaning to ask you. Will you be able to vote in the upcoming elections? I just wondered. I don't know how it works there. I know you weren't born in Iraq so does that mean you can't vote? Do you have to "apply" for citizenship as an "official/legal" Iraqi first before you can register to vote? I'm just asking. I really don't know...I'm not being a smart ass...honestly. I know your mother can vote because she was born in Iraq.

Connie

 
#9/09/2004 07:02:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

That was a good article Jeffrey. That man is right. Very well said.

Connie

 
#9/09/2004 10:46:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger madtom

Alvaro,
you can withdraw all the way till your under your bed, and this will not stop the terrorist from trying to kill you.
This conflict did not start with our invasion of Iraq and it wont end with our withdrawal.

Madtom

 
#9/10/2004 01:18:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger madtom

Alvaro,
Do you really believe that CB was so destitute that he had no other option, not even flipping burgers, that he had to join?
Even if this fantasy were true, he still made the decision to join all by himself.
I think that CB's current situation, i.e. censored, is much more tragic than anything he ever experienced in LA.
And not only for CB but for this current administration.

Madtom

 
#9/10/2004 05:29:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger Alvaro Frota

MadTon:

I don't believe in nothing. I only post a quote of CB's blog.

By the way, as Bush will win the "democratic" USA elections, the draft will coming soon.

AF

 
#9/10/2004 07:47:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Bruno:

You said, "Ever ask yourself *why* they (Chechen terrorist) stoop to such vile tactics? Do you even *want* to know?"

I am already familiar with the history of the Chechen cause. However, purposefully abusing hundreds of children by taking them hostages and killing them is beyond the pale, no matter what the alleged political justification. There can be no "why" that could morally justify such an action. IMHO, when a group stoops so low, they lose the requisite moral authority to persuade anyone of the legitmacy of their cause. For this reasons, such tactics are, in the end, self defeating.

Mark-In-Chi-Town

 
#9/10/2004 03:11:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Jeffrey --


"You have stated very clearly that you hope American soldiers die in Iraq."

The key words here are *in Iraq*.

What are US soldiers doing there?

Oh yes, killing Iraqis, that was it.

Go home.

Oh, and please stop swearing and freaking out like a five year old. I was going to finish this reply to you based on the rest of your posts this morning, but a moderator removed the flimsy arguments you made together with the swearing. (Coming from you, they *had* to be flimsy)

Relaaaax. Deep breaths, OK?

The rest of your posts are pretty much propagandising. I can say similar things about your heroes. Do you really want me to write a three chapter essay on how the US "has turned into the greatest danger in the world, and threatens civilization, security, and life everywhere" ?

I'll even get excerpts from bona fide Americans that are more vitriolic than I get. Will that convince you of anything? Look, I don't agree with terror used by Muslims or anybody else. BUT I also don't agree with the way America conducts its affairs, especially lately. I regard the bombing of Iraqis as American terrorism.

Simply because one weapon is dropped from the air with a laser on the tip does not mean it is any less of a terror device than a belt of C4 explosives around a man's waist.

--Bruno--



Mark --

That is why I said "... stoop to such vile tactics?"

I agree that the Chechens are screwing themselves over by doing things like this, even if the Russians have been guilty of an extremely brutal occupation. I think that the Chechens have lost hope and simply don't care anymore what people think. That is sad.

"There can be no "why" that could morally justify such an action. IMHO, when a group stoops so low, they lose the requisite moral authority to persuade anyone of the legitmacy of their cause."

I think I agree with that too. The "why" is an explanation, not an excuse. There is a difference.

I think that the Chechen situation might have parallels with Iraq in a few years time, if things continue as they are. I seriously hope that the US is gone before such a state of affairs is reached.

--Bruno--

 
#9/10/2004 04:07:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger madtom

Alvaro,
Damn I could kiss you!! thanks for mentioning CB, he's back in business. I suggest that you make his site a daily stop.

That's right folks CB is Back!

Madtom

 
#9/10/2004 06:34:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Bruno,

You stated, "What are US soldiers doing there? Oh yes, killing Iraqis, that was it."

Good grief! Now don't you think that is a little simplistic? I highly doubt at their morning briefings that the soldiers get a memo handed to them that says, "Today's mission: KILL IRAQIS!"....I mean come on Bruno! Iraqis are being killed yes but not just by US soldiers and to state that as their reason for being there is absurd.

Connie

 
#9/10/2004 07:09:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Jeffrey,

You don't mean that! You are from Iowa right? People from Iowa are nice....its the corn, I think....Besides, would you really want to go to prison over Bruno?

Connie

 
#9/10/2004 07:11:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Jeffrey,

You don't mean that! You are from Iowa right? People from Iowa are nice....its the corn, I think....Besides, would you really want to go to prison over Bruno?

Connie

 
#9/10/2004 07:49:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Yeah but Bruno is all talk behind a computer. He would never actually confront an American soldier in person....he's not brave enough.

Connie

Sorry about the double post.....

 
#9/10/2004 09:11:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger madtom

"American soldier in person"
Connie

It's worse than that, they would "withdraw" under thier beds while some terrorist is in the living room cutting the heads off of thier families.

Madtom

 
#9/10/2004 09:17:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

you lost on me madtom..."withdrawal under their beds"?

Connie

 
#9/11/2004 01:13:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger madtom

Connie,

It's thier stated position that the resistance and terrorism would end immediately after the US withdraws it's army from Iraq.
So I said even if we withdrew all the way home and hide under our beds....

Madtom

 
#9/11/2004 09:52:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger Khalid

connie, would you kindly email me please?
me*

 
#9/13/2004 05:46:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger madtom

I found this today and remenbered the fallen.

"Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

A. Lincoln
Gettysburg, Pennsylvania
November 19, 1863

Madtom

 
#9/13/2004 10:18:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Connie --

Let me ask you a simple question. When the US first invaded Iraq, the ranks of the ‘Baathist dead enders’ were put at a number not exceeding five thousand.

Last month, a single month in the long battle, the US claimed to have killed 2500 ‘insurgents’. Given such a huge killing rate, (they should have been wiped out months ago) where are all these new ‘dead enders’ coming from?

My answer to you on this is: Iraqis on the ground have realized the nature of the American occupation, and are taking up arms against it. Your ‘terrorists’ are mostly ordinary Iraqis that want to be left out of your global power politics, want to determine their own future, and do not trust you.

Orders to kill “non compliant forces” are orders to kill Iraqi patriots.

That is the truth.

And as for the assertion on my bravery, or lack of it ...

That assertion is just pure speculation on your part, because, in fact, you know *nothing* about me. I might be an ex- recce with a penchant for automatic weaponry and about three screws left in my head. In that case, I would welcome a clash with your infantry.

But, speaking of missing cranial matter, we come to my favourite punching bag ...

 
#9/13/2004 10:29:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Jeffrey --

Whoooaa! Strong words, coming from grandfather time there!

Yeah, well, you'd want many things, but alas, they will not come to pass, now will they?

I personally think you'd look good in orange ...

Well, enough chit chat, onto your moronic arguments.

I see we come to the old "racist!" accusation, ever a winner in serious intellectual debate. Well, what can I say? I am blown away by the logical and coherent nature of your accusation.

Not.

See, if I were a white South African, would I not rather be cheering for the United States? Aren’t United Sates Republicans mainly Christian, Protestant oriented people? Surely the great enemy of Communism would be a friend? Didn't the US support white South Africa as a bastion against Communist expansion? (Mbeki, on the other hand, supported Aristede, and has consistently stood in the way of various Western endeavours to expand influence in Africa.) And, surely an eeevil racist white would be cheering every brown Iraqi blown to bits, as I see *your* far right wingnut cheerleading team doing?

Your weak psychological analysis is, quite frankly, pathetic.

Furthermore, assuming white South Africans are all identical (yeah right), if I were white, it would add *more* authority to my case, because it would indicate that a serious amount of thought and analysis had gone into shifting a political opinion from one side of the spectrum to the other.

(Why is it that no matter how much I try to stick to reasoned debate, some mongoloid throwback drags the old ad hominem and paternity carcasses into the story? )

So what if you have blacks married into your family? Does this in any way imply anything about one’s own personal views? May I remind you of a certain fellow named Schickelgruber, and that his lineage did not necessarily influence his opinions on matters of race in a positive fashion at all ? Your argument is fallacious.

But you want to ad hominem? Lets go:

Your claims to African blood in the family do not impress me in the least. Judging Nigerians by their actions in our country, they are the scum of Africa. These slime balls specialize in Prostitution and their only talent is the creation of Drug rings. These parasites are also famous for their 419 internet confidence scams. If I were you I would not trumpet it as a positive having one of them in the family. A warm hearted Malawian or Madagascan, yes, or a hard working Botswanan certainly.

But I suppose in *your* case even a Nigerian would be an enhancement, so I ought not complain. Perhaps a few more generations of marriage into the ranks of murderers and thieves will elevate your bloodline to something that can appear in public without causing undue embarrassment.

Perhaps.

So, how does that feel, Jeffrey?

Hey it felt good to me, even if it had nothing to do with Iraq, the merits of your argument, or your own personal beliefs.

We can do this again, if you like, my little infidel friend.

--Bruno--

 

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