Tuesday, September 07, 2004

Terrible, Horrible news :*(((

I just knew that two of my closest Italina friends, and an Iraqi engineer who i know very well too, were kidnapped :*(((
they all work for a humanitarian NGO.
me*

@ 7:36 pm   26 comments

26 Comments

#9/07/2004 08:22:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger madtom

Khalid I hope your friends make it.
But what can you expect if the dammed government lets the thugs go every time they got them cornered.
When are they going to get serious about security?

Madtom

 
#9/07/2004 09:41:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger Khalid

THUGS are the mercenaries you sent to our streets, and i REFUSE this low attempt to equal criminals with resistance.
me*

 
#9/07/2004 10:06:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger madtom

Let's wait till your friends are free and we will ask them if these people are resistance or just thugs?


Madtom

 
#9/07/2004 10:35:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger Khalid

Damn Damn Damn, i swear you always invent a way to missunderstand what i say!
those who kidnap are criminals, your mercinaries are thugs, those who fight the occupations are resistance, clear enough?
me*

 
#9/07/2004 11:57:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger madtom

Clear as mud.
As the list of those the resistance calls "occupation" can include anyone.

Madtom

 
#9/08/2004 12:31:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger Najma

A BIG HUGE difference between the criminals and the resistance.. No body can understand but us... Sad but true.
Khalid, I hope no harm will happen to them, we'll be praying for them... And for us.

 
#9/08/2004 02:00:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger madtom

http://iraqataglance.blogspot.com/archives/2004_09_01_iraqataglance_archive.html#109450212857173864
"I can say that some Iraqis complain from a sort of ‘Paranoid personality’ characterized by the suspicion, awareness and feeling that they are always targeted, all of that because of the ex-regime, oppression is the main cause.
Some Iraqis now are torn; they can’t decide who’s the friend and who’s the enemy, so they mix the facts without knowing that..it’s kind of psychological conflict which will end in a calm environment, i.e, when Iraq becomes safe."

Sad but true.

Madtom

 
#9/08/2004 02:41:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger Khalid

And flinstons said " yabadabado "
so whats your point?
me*

 
#9/08/2004 02:45:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger madtom

http://iraqataglance.blogspot.com/archives/2004_09_01_iraqataglance_archive.html#109449196001998163
"democracy..not those criminals who are shown on the channels kidnapping and killing the innocents in the name of ‘resistance and Islam’…there is NO ‘resistance’ in Iraq, there are AlQaida, Saddamis, Arabs and criminals who are destroying our country and the MNF, ING, IP and the IRAQI PEOPLE are fighting them….
OK?"
Sorry but Ays just seems to have so much news and things to say today about this.

http://iraqataglance.blogspot.com/1.jpg
http://iraqataglance.blogspot.com/2.jpg
http://iraqataglance.blogspot.com/6.jpg
http://iraqataglance.blogspot.com/5.jpg

Khalid help me out here, look at those jpg's, are these resistance, mercenaries, thugs, Iraqis, what?

Madtom

 
#9/08/2004 05:28:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

It's so on purpose. And your irony is so low at this very moment, when you know khalid's friends are in this horrible situation.

Everyday it gets clearer, not just for iraqis, but for the whole world, who's the world's enemy. Who seems not to know where's the enemy is USA government. Or, even worse: they pretend the enemy is in one direction just to achieve political and economical goals.

Watch out. You're making your own political grave.

>>>Carol

 
#9/08/2004 05:38:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Madtom;
It is very simple, I will help you with this.
if the kidnapped a family or friends of yours then the people who did it are terrorists, if the kidnapped is someone you don't know then they are resistance.

LadyBird

 
#9/08/2004 06:59:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Madtom I will help you with this;
If the kidnapped is your friends and families then the people who did it are criminals, if the kidnapped people you don’t know then who did it are resistance.


ladyBird

 
#9/09/2004 12:28:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Ummm, if LadyBird is kidnapped, the kidnappers are resistance. If Khalid is kidnapped, they're terrorists.
It's my very own opinion.. Although I wish that terrorists kidnap LadyBird instead of the resistance.. Right?

 
#9/09/2004 01:25:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger Alvaro Frota

Italian women kidnapped in BaghdadArmed men in military uniforms stormed the Baghdad office of an aid group today and kidnapped two Italian women and two Iraqis.

The attack was only the second known kidnapping of foreign women since the wave of kidnappings began earlier this year. The first involved a Japanese aid worker who was captured in Fallujah in April and released a week later.

About 15 men drove up to the house used by the aid organisation, A Bridge To..., said witnesses.

The men claimed to work for the office of interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi. Two armed men pushed their way into the office, put guns to the heads of the aid group’s guards and grabbed the four workers, said Jean-Dominique Bunel of the NGO Co-ordination Committee in Iraq.

One Iraqi woman resisted, but they dragged her by her headscarf, threw her into a car and sped away, witnesses said.

“They have been taken hostage,” Bunel said. “We have contacted religious authorities and we have informed their families. We are working for their release.”

The two Italian women were named as Simona Pari and Simona Torretta, both 29. The two Iraqis were identified as Raad Ali Aziz and Mahnaz Bassam.

A witness, who gave his name only as Adnan, said the gunmen arrived in three cars. Another Iraqi man managed to escape.

A government spokesman denied that Allawi’s office was involved, and said that workers had been kidnapped.

“It was a big group,” said Sabah Kadhim, a spokesman for the Interior Ministry, of the kidnappers. “They were wearing military uniforms and flak jackets.” A spokesman for A Bridge To ..., Lello Rienzi, said in Rome that about 20 armed men stormed their offices, saying they were from an unidentified “Islamic group.”

“We had no sign of danger,” Rienzi said. He said the women “believed they were working in complete security.”

The two Italians were working in water and school projects. Torretta, who is the head of the organisation’s Iraqi operation, has been in the country since before the war started. Pari arrived in Iraq in June 2003, and was working on a school project in the capital.

Bunel said he knew of no immediate plans by other private aid organisations to evacuate the country because of the kidnapping. A car bombing last year at the offices of the international Red Cross prompted many aid groups to flee the country, although some returned.

However the recent wave of kidnappings of foreigners has alarmed the international community here and has prompted many organisations to review their security options.

Police sealed off the street where the humanitarian organisation is located in Baghdad’s Wehda neighbourhood.

Insurgents have kidnapped more than 100 foreigners since the US-led invasion in March 2003. Numerous Iraqis have also been abducted by criminal gangs demanding ransoms.

 
#9/09/2004 01:31:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger madtom

Thank you Ladybird, that really does help explain a lot.

Madtom

 
#9/09/2004 01:42:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger Alvaro Frota

Two quotes of the previous news:

"The men claimed to work for the office of interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi."

"They were wearing military uniforms and flak jackets"

Does Iraqi resistance has military uniform? Does they have flak jackets?

Of course, they are criminals, serving the great criminal, former Saddan's top official, former CIA operative and current american's puppet Prime Minister of Iraqi.

But, brainwashed people prefers see nothing and, of course, blame Iraqi resistance.

Aquele abraço!

?lvaro Frota

 
#9/09/2004 01:50:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger Alvaro Frota

To the Iraqi and other arabs in this blog.

In the comments thread about the news above in Iraq War Al Qanat said the claim about the kidnapping done by "Ansar El Zawahri" is not credible, quoting this arabic forumAl Qanat said it is stated in this forum that the claim about the kidnapping done by "Ansar El Zawahri" is not credible, in opinion of experts consulted at Il Cairo. It is only a "chat line" sayd Montassera Al Zayat, lawyer defender of egyptians arned integralists. The same in opinion of Mohammed Salah, editorial office chief of 'Al Hayat' in Il Cairo.

 
#9/09/2004 01:54:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger madtom

Khalid,
Is this true? Where your friends arrested by the
"office of interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi."?

Madtom

 
#9/09/2004 01:56:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Alvaro,

I clicked on your name which led me to your blog...I read some of it...well...the English stuff....and I just have to ask....What the heck are you talkin' about? .... Maybe it is a language barrier thing.... but... you just rambled on and on... you get really worked up over Bush and the USA though....I got that much out of it....but the rest of it .... I don't get it....you are having a heart attack over something you can't change....Bush lived in Texas for too many years....he ain't gonna budge...he ain't changin'.... and Iraq...well...they get to vote in about four months on who they want to govern them....in the meantime, Alvaro, just calm down.

ACS

 
#9/09/2004 01:58:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger Alvaro Frota

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#9/09/2004 02:07:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger madtom

"Bush lived in Texas for too many years....he ain't gonna budge."
ACS

Popular misconception, the only reason he can claim to stand firm, is because the ground under him keeps moving.

Madtom

 
#9/09/2004 02:28:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger Alvaro Frota

Mad Ton:

What the purpose of you question to Khalid? Are you trying to led Khalid to Abu Ghraib?

Realize that there are a war in Iraq, not a liberation...

Alvaro Frota

 
#9/09/2004 05:02:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger madtom

Alvaro,

Why would Khalid get arrested by answering a question of mine?
" a war in Iraq, not a liberation..."

Have you ever seen liberation that did not include a war?
Why do you think the two are mutually exclusive?

Madtom

 
#9/09/2004 09:02:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger Alvaro Frota

Madtom:

You ask me why would Khalid get arrested by answering your question.

As far as know, you are here becouse you are trying to learn how to be an american puppet in Cuba, in some day whem USA will invade Cuba with the aid of the Cuban's maffia of Florida. For this reason, you don't see anything wrong in the Iraqi puppet government. You see them as you in future.

But reality is not so like this. Then, if you don't see no danger to Khalid, it's only becouse you don't see nothing after all.

Don't be lazy and google Internet and you will see the reason. Try starting by Iraq-War.


Aquele abraço!

Alvaro Frota
------------
By the way, american "liberation" of Iraq becomes a trully liberation war, raced by the Iraqi resistance against the occupiers. Then, I don't think the two are mutually exclusive.

 
#9/09/2004 06:03:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger madtom

Alvaro,
So you think that I am an agent (puppet) of the US government trying to gain intelligence from Khalid?

When I said that I could use information from the OIF, I was talking mostly about the "mentality of the people", as these should be about the same after years of dictatorship, not on the military operations.
I do not believe the US will invade Cuba, so I am not waiting for this to happen. I am for the lifting of the embargo, and fight the powers that be to change this very out of date and destructive policy.
But the economics and the majority of the Cuban-American community are against me. But noting is written in stone so there is hope.
I guess it's true that we each see what we want to see.
When I have more time I'll read you link.

Madtom

 
#9/09/2004 06:49:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Alvaro:

Your wild speculation as to the government involvement in the kidnapping of Khalid's friends appear to be misplaced.

The New York times is reporting:
"A previously unknown Islamic group claiming loyalty to a leader of Al Qaeda took responsibility on Wednesday for the kidnapping Tuesday of two Italian aid workers.

A group calling itself Al Zawahiri Loyalists said it had kidnapped the two Italians, Simona Pari and Simona Torretta, declared the women to be "spies" and promised to use them to "burn the hearts" of Italy's prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi, and of the Italian people.

The group appears to be named for Ayman al-Zawahiri, the Egyptian doctor who is believed to be the second in command of Al Qaeda. There was no way to authenticate the message, which was posted on a Web site used by Islamist organizations."

The evidence doesn't seem to support your theories. Are you prepared to admit you were wrong?

Mark-In-Chi-Town

 

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