Saturday, February 26, 2005

Clarifying

At first I thought "I am not going to get dragged up in this", in someone else's smear campaign. But then I thought, it is an issue and it needs addressing.

A bi-partisan commenter (not a member of this blog) has apparently been circulating emails behind backs. Emails about a certain blog in the blogroll here. The blog offends him, and he would like to see it removed. Firstly, this is a joke. The person apparently circulating the email has in the past written some of the foulest rudest comments I have ever seen. Secondly, the person circulating the email claims to support democracy. And yet this person wants to "disappear" a blog he does not like. The principle of democracy, is that there is a place for everyone in it. One cannot claim to maintain a definitive Iraq Blog directory, if one begins disappearing Iraq blogs. Once one blog goes, where does it end I ask.

I have already replied to this person, but thought I'd just bring it out in the open. As I said to this person, in the words of Martin Niemoller;

"They came for the Communists
And I didn't object for I wasn't a Communist

They came for the Socialists
And I didn't object for I wasn't a Socialist

They came for the Labor leaders
And I didn't object for I wasn't a Labor leader

They came for the Jews
And I didn't object.

Then they came for me and there was no one left to object."

Let me make an analogy. Think of a telephone directory. In it you will find the names of panelbeaters, bank clerks, musicians, cleaners, IT specialists, dentists and tree surgeons. All side by side, row after row, with nothing in common other then the page and the ink. It is possible for many people to co-exist in a telephone directory, without ever having even necessarily met each other. And so it is with Iraq Blog counts Iraq Blog directory. Co-existence is the key to peace. Everyone is there. The heretic, the truthteller, the teen, the insurgent and the kid who met the president.

I have to wonder at that apparent email circulator's commitment to democracy. If this was an issue to him, why did he not email Iraq Blog Count directly? Why did he resort to gossip-mongering behind other peoples backs? You know, I've had my share of disagreements too - but I always choose to approach the source. That is the beauty of the web - we can, or should be able to, contact each other openly.

15 Comments

#2/26/2005 10:53:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger emigre

richsanter

Come off it. You let it slip yourself that you'd been emailing other people (more then one).

As for not posting your name, I'm not into naming names but thanks for stepping forward and claiming your baggage.

Re reposting all the mean-spirited things you've posted here; no. Hearing them once is enough.

Btw - I see you have been sitting waiting to pounce on me again. I barely just posted and you're right in there. What is this, cat and mouse?

 
#2/27/2005 01:16:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger Rob

It seems that Martin Niemoller's quote is different depending on where you get it. According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Niemoller), the quote is as follows:

First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me—
and there was no one left to speak out.

 
#2/28/2005 12:08:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

it looks like you got embarrassed emigre. maybe next time you wont spread lies about people.

tom

 
#2/28/2005 02:01:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger CMAR II

Emigre,

I think the reason you are unable to reference anything richsanter has posted that you object to is this: You have deleted all his posts.

I, however, saw those posts before you deleted them and did not find them to be anywhere as outrageous as you post suggests.

Furthermore, you have not named anyone besides Kurdo that richsanter has contacted.

I would say you owe him a big apology. Or perhaps your post should be "deleted by administrator". Or both.

 
#2/28/2005 02:31:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

i agree that you own richsanter an apology, unless of course you can name some people other than kurdo that he has contacted or produce some hate post. you didnt name his name and he could have let it go, but the fact that richsanter went out of his way to confront you so many times really makes me believe that you're lying. i've seen several posts in the past by richsanter complaining how you delete the posts of anything that disagrees with you...is that so mean spirited, as you say? so he didnt like the great iraq blog, big deal. he is allowed to post his opinions just as anyone else. you didnt need to make lies about him because you didnt like his views. as people have said to you in the past....grow up. you were in the wrong, so just admit it like a person with some class.


Jeff

 
#2/28/2005 03:48:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger emigre

Goodness, big day, been away. But here I am back again. I see all the trolls have been having a ball. As usual. Why I take time to respond to them all I don't know. Well, here goes;

Tom - Eh?

cmar ii

Copies of comments are also auto-magically emailed to a special Iraq Blog Count email address. So more evidence of commenter rudeness remains then you might think. I leave some of richsanters comments, but the ones that are really beyond the pale and consist of nothing but 2 minute hate material - swoosh, those all go into the trash. Same goes for anyone else.

Jeff

No need to name names, I think richsanter has got the message. As for posting "opinion" - definations thereof; Opinion; "the expression of a belief that is held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof" and how 'bout this one; "a vague idea in which some confidence is placed". And that pretty much sums up richsanter doesn't it, all un-substantiated vagueness lacking positive proof and puffed up with over-confidence.

Goodness, when will any of you ever have something positive to say about my contributions. All you do is moan moan moan. What a page full of pessimists you all are.

 
#2/28/2005 03:48:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger emigre

Rob

Hi, long time no see. Yup you're right, that Martine Niemoller quote pops up in various guises all over the show. It's a goody, isn't it not.

 
#3/01/2005 10:48:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

bruno-

i've been making comments for months. just because you haven't noticed my witty and insiteful takes on life, doesnt mean that i dont exist. you bruno, sound an awful lot like emigre, khalid, and riverbend. i guess these people are all 1. it must be shocking that anyone could ever disagree with you and the brilliant emigre, so you call one detractor a nazi and the others all liars and the same person to make you feel better inside. you all annoy me with this stupid arguing. this blog has suddenly become really GAY when comments like yours are made.

John

 
#3/01/2005 04:04:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger 0023

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#3/01/2005 04:19:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger emigre

Defining Troll; Hides under bridge trying to elicit toll-fee from innocent passers-by. Turns to stone when the sun shines on it.

 
#3/01/2005 07:46:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger A. Damluji

ummm.. i was away for some time.. what's exactly happening here?

OHH i get it, the classic "my D*CK IS BIGGER THAN YOURS" thing..
actually its more like "MY TONGUE HAS MORE HAIR THAN YOURS" but no matter..

I COULD"N'T" CARE LESS, as you frequently say..
and it did look like you were playing a 5 on 1 tag-team match up there, now wether or not the men behind the masks dressing in flashy lycra are the same or NOT, I COULD"N'T" CARE LESS..
cheers!
and ALL OF YOU CALM DOWN.. all's been said and done now, GET OVER IT.

 
#3/01/2005 09:13:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger 0023

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#3/02/2005 03:29:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger emigre

John, can it. No swearing at others.

Your post has been deleted.

 
#3/02/2005 03:42:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger emigre

richsanter

You are rude most of the time. I don't like the way you manipulate people. I find most of your comments are dishonest, sneaky and forever trying to stir up crap between other people. I've even been watching you immitate other people's comment styles in order to create confusion.

Other bloggers have shut down their comments because of you.

I could ban you, but I'm watching you instead. The more you say, the more we learn about you. So keep commenting richsanter. It's all to your own detriment in the long haul.

 
#3/07/2005 01:24:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger emigre

Oh really, this is getting ridiculous.

Look, fraud, whoever you are - I can see you find dressing as me attractive but it's seriously time you built your own life and moved on.

Get your own user name, get your own profile, get your own blog. I'm sure you can succeed on your own site, with a mighty google hit rate considering your preferential material.

 

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