Sunday, February 13, 2005

Why did Iraqis vote?

To get the occupation out!


#2/13/2005 08:32:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger F. in Amsterdam

Of course Khalid! And there is a pretty good chance that before too long, the new parliament is going to ask the occupiers to leave, with or without timetable.

#2/14/2005 02:16:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger khalid jarrar

well i hope so, but unfortunately i dont believe so!

#2/14/2005 05:31:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger emigre


Goodness. You know I'm a skeptic too but perhaps it worked afterall, in some small way. Our comments do seem rather less "occupied" today.

Anyway, hope you're well too. My thoughts here (and here).

#2/16/2005 09:19:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

said the vote was against the occupation? um, no - it was FOR democracy and sovereignty of Iraq.

A child wants to be an adult, and then the adult remembers fondly their youth and wishes they were young again.

Iraqi Kurds and Shiites and other Iraqis voted to end the decades of being excluded from power. Wonderful for them and bravo! They want Iraq to move forward...

Of course Iraq wants to be out of the phase of this difficult transition, and Iraqis want to feel they can be responsible for their country fully... but in time, Iraqis will remember fondly when their country was reborn and the hopes it created. And many may even consider themselves grateful for what America sacrificed so Iraq's tyranny was replaced with democracy.

#2/16/2005 05:04:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger richsanter

Hey! It seems Emigre nuked that brave 'anonymous' I wrote a rebuke to. Grr. Another literary masterpiece gone to waste.

I'll refrain from the usual USA bashing and agree with Patrick on his sentiments - such an outcome would be better and preferable to the likely outcomes right now. Let's hope.

#2/16/2005 08:39:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger emigre

Sorry Bru,

I forgot you liked playing with those. It was just too sick though and I wanted to try out bloggers new "Remove forever it cannot be undone" feature.

#2/17/2005 12:48:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger CMAR II

So the high turn-out was do to hostility to the foreign troops hunting down the terrorists and training the police and national guard.

Soooo...I guess those that boycotted the elections were FOR occupation! Right, Khalid?

Welcome to the ranks of pro-Occupiers, Khalid!


#2/19/2005 07:44:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger richsanter

what exactly is the point of making a comment if all the comments opposing your viewpoints get deleted?

#2/19/2005 11:13:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger emigre


What exactly is the point of posting incoherent illogical abuse when someone is just going to come along and tidy it up?

You know the deal, swearing and abusive commentary is removed. Try to raise your standards richsanter, and perhaps some of your comments might remain.

#2/19/2005 11:51:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger 0023

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#2/20/2005 12:27:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger emigre


Quoting "you certainly will see the Iraqi government siding with the people. But it will only offer tokens..."And therein lies the nut. Tokenism. The kernal that has the cynical amoung us pose questions.

Cont'd quoting "...until infrastructure is thouroughly rebuilt, troops are trained (and found to be effective and loyal), and the economy of Iraq more completely recovers."And therein lies the "shell", or the egg if you like. As in which comes first, chicken or ovum.

Can infrastructure be rebuilt while soldiers (various factions) are busy blowing it up, over and again? Or is it best to begin rebuilding after troops are gone.

Can an economy recover while occupying armies issue curfews and restrict movement, effectively limiting transport and trade?

The only kind of economy any country seems to develop under occupation is a black market economy. Is a black market economy an adviseable way to install capitalism? Or is capatalism just one big black market in disguise?

Further quote "We'll have to see how the next elections go. That will be a good time to reassess how things are going in Iraq."Oh, oh, 0023! Ye so keen to proceed with elections are now all cautiously "we'll have to see". How the cynic is deafened by inner alarm bells now!

You see, 0023, for me, the most worrying attribute of post election fervour is the "afterwards bit". Where everyone settles back with cigarette in satiated voting stupor and forgets that democracy requires participation. And particpation now! All the time! How else is one to hold ones governing body (how ever token it may be) accountable!

Oh no 0023, none of this "wait and see". That will not do. Agenda's must be compiled! Claims must be examined! Now is the time to take action 23! Otherwise 0023, all we have is another big sham on our hands. And we know how flipfloppy those can get, don't we.

#2/21/2005 02:54:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger 0023

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#2/22/2005 05:18:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

emigre you're a lying coward and a tool for khalid's terrorist agenda. you told richsanter that only coherent logical, non-swearing posts are allowed, yet you allow every violent anti-american post that is made. you always allow posts that incite violence against americans, yet if someone says there is 1 muslim terrorist in the world, their post is gone. i guess you must be like most people in the ME and believe all the terrorists are jews and a muslim would never harm a human being, as if they are some kind of morally superior group of humans. you racist scum make you sick


#2/22/2005 05:39:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger emigre


Anyone who oversteps the violence mark here gets a warning, if they persist their comments are removed.

And stop trying to incite anti-semitism on a peaceful blog, it's badtaste.

You can take that as a warning, Tom.

#3/06/2005 03:27:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger emigre

Please send all of your pornographic pictures to and also put my address into any of those porno pages that will send free picture in my email. Thanks!


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