Friday, October 07, 2005

Sometimes...

Sometimes... I just keep posting in the hope that someone else will get sick of my tireless prattle and decide to oust my monopoly here and outpost me or stand up to my fearless pacification.

Because I know nothing much, except perhaps for just one thing: I do not want to see another dictatorship, or make-believe democracy, installed in Iraq. And this, as far as I can tell, can only happen when as many people as possible tell their tales, because only then can some sort of composite "truth" be revealed. During war there is just so much propaganda that the only way to out-propagate it is by presenting everything (theoretically). Because propaganda seems to infiltrate every action, even those most innocent ones. Perhaps especially those most innocent ones. Sadly. Oh what a fretfull cynic am I.

I wish I could do more, but then does an ant wish it could lift the world? Or is an ant content in lifting it's own bodyweight. Perhaps an ant is not content at all and just lifts without reason.

12 Comments

#10/07/2005 06:18:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger cile

... 'when as many people as possible tell their tales, because only then can some sort of composite "truth" be revealed. During war ... /

emigre, this is so true. I believe that the more stories are being told, and the more ways for telling these stories are being used, the better it is! and yes, i agree with you that probably the most innocent are most affected by the war-propaganda's.

 
#10/08/2005 01:56:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

What sort of government do you want? If you want a democracy, what would make it real, as opposed to "make-believe"?

 
#10/08/2005 11:25:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger cile

hm. that last question: which country do you mean? or is it intended as an open question that goes for more countries of this world? ;)

 
#10/10/2005 02:01:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Emigre

Almost everytime you publish richsanter turns up. Anyone worth their weight in salt can see he is either as he says insane or an agent of provocation or both, keen only to sow mistrust and destabilize dialogue with his halftruths. You will only satisfy him when you tell him "Amereich is Great" and even then he will be ordering you say it and mean it as well. Why do you tolerate him so? You have no religion as far as I can see and yet you leave his saber rattling unchallenged this week almost as though you expected a god to step in and judge him.

 
#10/11/2005 08:31:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Two invitations to everyone here at Iraq Blogspot:
(1) There is a FREE blogger conference online that starts on October 12-24 called, "Building A Safer World: The United Nations in the 21st Century." You can view information on it here. We really want Iraqi participation in this international colloquia of scholars, writers, thinkers, and people trying to improve the world. Please join us!
(2) One of the largest blog sites in Anerica, Daily Kos, receives 13 Million+ hits per month. The American people are not hearing about much going on in Iraq these days, and few have ever had the opportunity to hear anything from the Iraqi people themselves. There is a great deal of interest in hearing from each of you and interacting with you.

 
#10/11/2005 09:15:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Its so painfully true that we in America hear little to nothing regarding what is happening inside Iraq.

We hear "American and Iraqi forces raided this," and "American forces captured that," but we hear nothing about how stable your power, water, or law enforcement systems are, nor how safe your streets are for the common man.

Some of us read the Iraqi bloggers, and are intrigued by and respect most of what we hear, but not nearly enough of us do. We would love for all of you to start posting on some of our blogs in America, to tell "the world" --or at least the US--what is really going on, from your point of view.

Richsanter has a mild point in saying that Democracy and free expression are all about debate and diverse opinions rather than consensus, and we invite you to partake in the open-source world of ideas that awaits you!

 
#10/11/2005 03:53:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger Bruno

Emigre, some USEFUL spam for you:

This is an EXCELLENT article and analysis of the effect of the so-called “El Salvador Option” being implemented by the US on Iraq. It covers the formation of the death squads, as well as disinformation used to redirect interpretation and blame for various mass killings. This is reminiscent of the Phoenix Programme in Vietnam.

Check this out:

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/FUL506A.html

Oh, and Jeffrey loving richsanter somehow does NOT surprise me.

 
#10/11/2005 04:10:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Hello,

TeresaInPennsylvania here.

I would like to reinforce the invitation to post at www.dailykos.com/section/Diary and also at a site called www.peopleforchange.net where there is a lot of discussion about the middle east and Irag in particular. We discuss these issues amoung ourselves and there are a few american muslim members there, but we would like very much to hear from people who can speak to us about what is really happening in Iraq and the middle east.
In the meantime I hope to participate here from time to time.

 
#10/11/2005 04:49:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

richsanter might have had a mild point if he hadn't spent so much time in the past intimidating anyone who doesn't agree with him.

Meanwhile Jeffrey continues to foist presumption on the unimpressed. How parochial. Emigre, you have created a backwater for the disenfranchised. Where are you? And why don't you stand up to these thugs. You must know I prefer more wholesome satire to Jeffrey and rich's panfried greasy offerings. Must I wait till after dusk for your reply?

Surely you don't intend leaving burlesque subversion all to Bruno and dkos visitors, heavens someone might start wondering if you even really care at all.

 
#10/11/2005 06:40:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Hardly surprising to see some commenters already trying to discourage people from visiting Daily Kos which is arguably one of the US's biggest blogs ever, basically bigger then Ben Hurr with heaps of diarists posting about loads of stuff that their current administration finds discomforting. Still, none of them appear to have been arrested yet so visiting and chatting with them ought to be fairly safe. Incidentally, a number of Kos posters were all sitting on their hands waiting to go off at the slightest signal from Khalid's mom when he was arrested but held themselves considerately in check while his family navigated their way through bureaucracy. They are mostly Americans and at times a bit rowdy, but then most bloggers have their rowdy ra-ra moments.

 
#10/11/2005 06:42:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Roak Wrote: "I would be worried about debating with anyone from DailyKos. Those people are the extreme left wing of US political spectrum and they are the same ones who actually cheer when things get worse in Iraq - like huge suicide bombings, killings of elected officials, etc."

One thing about a good lie is to tell a little bit of truth. Fact is, I've seen many soldier's families post at DailyKos and soldiers from Iraq themselves. There is a large cross section of people including moderates and conservatives. Dissent is encouraged and ALL Americans need to see the real view of Iraqis straight from Iraqis.

You can also post over at :
http://www.sftt.us/phpbb2/index.php
This is combination of mostly veterans and active duty soldiers that are a cross section of the political spectrum from far left to avid Bush supporters ( few and far between).

Go ahead and register and tell them that DBurn sent you. All is anonymous. Start your own topics. Let the vets talk to you and ask questions. We really need some unfiltered view points from all of you. Those who support this war and those who don't and why.

This also has high traffic and there are some real healthy debate. Dissent is encouraged unlike the neo-con sites that cheer-lead this war.

 
#10/11/2005 07:14:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Roark,

Thanks for reminding me why I am a democrat. I prefer honesty to O'Reilly spin.

"Extreme leftists" don't bother posting at dkos. It's not left enough for them.

 

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