Monday, January 31, 2005

72% ???

Today, was full of explosions.
i didnt leave the house, and the same goes for so many families.
i saw the press conference of the "highest commission for the elections" who organized, supposadly, everyting in the elections, right after the voting centers closed, 5 pm this afternoon.the journalists asked the executive director: how did you know that the percentage of the voters in iraq is 72% like you announced?
he asnwered: "well, the head of every voting center estimated that basing on the length of the line of the voters as he saw it!"
hehehe! see how sceintific? how accurate? he actually said that!
the way the voting happened, is that you go to the voting center, and you go to the man that is your ration dealer, the one that you take the ration from him every month, so you tell him that you are gonna vote, he marks your name on his list, and then you vote!!!that way the goverment will know exactly who voted and who didnt, two dealers said that the next years' card won't be given to those who didnt vote..hmm...Tara, my great producer and wonderful friend, designed a joke, i gave it to a freind of mine here in baghdad to draw it but i couldnt scan it because no shops are openned in baghdad, anyways, its for Bush removing the curtain and producing the new Iraqi president, Mr. 245
( a number only, the president doesnt think its safe to reveal his name) and the picture of the Iraqi president, wearing a cover on his face, like the national guard.hehe:)well it's very much possible in Iraq today!there is a very funny thing that i noticed in baghdad, when you face a police check point, you find a small street to the right, right before the check point!well, its in the manual, if you dont know, that check point should be put in a palce where you cant neither turn back nor go anywhere once you see the checkpoint, so once you see it its over, you cant avoid it, but the Iraqi police understand that so many people carry personal weapons, and maybe some of the resistanse people would be going from that road loaded with PRGs, if that's the case, they are willing usually to attack any check point to go through, so the police just want to go home safe, why go through all the trouble? put the check point after a tun to the right! so then anyone with weapons goes to the right, anyone without weapons goes through the check point, and everyone is happy and satisfied!


#1/31/2005 03:17:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger liminal

and the ny times is now reporting election officials say they "estimate 60 percent of registered voters" turned out to vote. having trouble finding the link...but i saw it just a little while ago. i wonder what the real number will turn out to be.


#1/31/2005 03:49:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger richsanter

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#1/31/2005 04:15:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

72% or 60%, either way its a huge turnout in the face of losing your life. While you were hiding in your house, Khalid...millions of women carried their babies with them to the polls.

You must feel disgusted with yourself. I cannot imagine what shame you have. And Lim, in Khalids last scree you posted something about 'not apologizing for him'. What are you attempting to do this time?

I, for one, am inspired by your people. You should be as well. In the face of threats against their lives, millions upon millions of them managed to make their way to polls and cast a ballot. In respect to this niether one of you two are worthy to be called Iraqi.


#1/31/2005 04:39:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

This is Amani.
Didn't feel like making a loggin.
Ok, maybe its not 72%, let's say its 60 or even better 50%
That is much better than the Americans do. We only get about a quarter of the population to vote. So more than halve the population decide to risk there lives to do what some Americans won't do if it rains.
This has been a successful election. Iraq has stepped up to the plate. It has shown many that Iraqis are not a backwards people that have no sense of modern thinking. I am sorry you did not go. you miss out on telling you grandkids about it.

#1/31/2005 05:02:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger emigre


Lay off. You know as well as anyone else that personal choice is personal choice. A choice to not-vote is as valid as a choice too vote. Your bullying is doing your cause a severe dis-service.

Whether a citizen choses to vote or to not-vote, that citizen has made a choice and has the right to be proud of it.

#1/31/2005 05:12:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

I moved to mark my finger with ink, I dipped it deep as if I was poking the eyes of all the world's tyrants.

Asha al Iraq Asha al Iraq, Asha Al Iraq

You seem a little sore around the edges today. It's not all doom and gloom, Emigre. Though, I imagine the 3 of you must have had a rough day yesterday.

Lets hear you say it. Can you? Asha al Iraq Asha al Iraq, Asha Al Iraq


#1/31/2005 05:19:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Certainly, they have every right not to vote, and be as proud as new parents about it if they wish. However, when they begin to defame others for voting or attempt to demean the process, thereby corrupting the results they then open themselves up for whatever may come. Constructive comments should be welcomed, however, you and I both know that Khalid is not being constructive.

Have a good day, Miss Em.


#1/31/2005 07:37:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger emigre

Khalid has always revealed his thoughts openly and honestly, knowing full well that there awaits a hoard of gnashing wolves ready to fall upon his throat the moment he opens his mouth.

For that, Bluefinger, he has more credibility then you ever will.

#1/31/2005 08:26:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

I'm sorry dear, but Khalid and his brother have never had an ounce of credibility.... even in their own country. As we see by yesterdays results.

Those with American enmity pretended to give Khalid credibility, but it was a marriage of convenience only. Now, that marriage is exposed for what it truly was.


#1/31/2005 09:04:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

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#1/31/2005 09:12:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger emigre


There is an important concept involved in democracy. And that concept, is that people ought be free to follow their own heart and do what feels right in their own heart whether or not it is what everybody else is doing.

The moment that balance is upset by someone claiming everybody has to do the same thing to be free, we begin to lose the diversity that makes freedom so attractive.

The courage to follow one's intuition, regardless of how popular it may or may not make one, is something endurably credible across all nationalities, all ethnicities and all religions.

Einstein's theories were bad-mouthed in his day too.

#1/31/2005 09:16:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger emigre

Anonymous at 5:04

If you cannot name yourself, think twice before calling others names.

#1/31/2005 09:25:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger richsanter

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#2/01/2005 07:36:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

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#2/01/2005 09:21:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger liminal

why do vacuous thinkers gravitate toward IBC? if you actually had something to say, i would listen. but please lay off both Khalid and Emigre with the personal insults or you will be on the recieving end of my creative wrath.

;) liminal

#2/01/2005 11:52:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger richsanter

Khalid –

LOL! I like your checkpoint narrative, and can understand it too. Why risk your life for the lousy pittance that you are being paid, when you are doing somebody else’s work for them anyway? That is a sensible and patriotic stance to take. ;)

#2/01/2005 11:55:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger richsanter

Emigre' -- You have housecleaning to do, otherwise this is going to degenerate into a flamefest ...

#2/01/2005 01:28:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger liminal

i'm just kidding really.

but i truly don't like it when people engage in baseless harassment. noxious wit is so much more fun!

i know you are but what am i...

hee hee

-vicious liminicious

#2/01/2005 07:30:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger aNarki-13

You may not remember, but Mr. Richsanter was found posting these kind of comments on both Najma's and HNK's site before they shut the comments down..

And Anon.. please, what do you expect to achieve with your verbal genius?

BlueFinger: why u so annoyed? So you voted, So we didn't.. SO WHAT?

You think They are not worthy of being called Iraqi?
How worthy do YOU think YOU are?
Is being Iraqi depend on what your government or leader tells you to do?
People who did exactly that during Saddam's reign are now called traitors and criminals.
History only repeats itself because we don't learn from our mistakes.
Do not spread Hate culture.
Let us embrace our differences, it is the only way we can be BETTER than those whom we describe as Monsters.

Fix the traffic lights in the streets before you elect the national committee..
Have people abide by the friggin' traffic lights still working before you write the constitution.

No use building a crystal palace on a pile of steaming S**T.
We will still end knee-deep in it.

And to the elected:
72, 60 or whatever percentage you get, IT DOESNT MATTER IF YOU DON'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

Make the streets safe, whomever you are, and by God I will be the first to vote and cheer for you.

Show us change.
Show us an end to mindless violence.
and We will unanimously show you support.


#2/01/2005 09:59:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger liminal

Ah-men brother A13!

#2/01/2005 11:11:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous


You guys/girls need to get your hands a little dirty also, my friends. Blue those fingers.. quit sitting on them.

You speak with good sense, Anaki13 and seem to understand that you cannot spread continuous blame on others without taking some responsibility yourself.

We are all in this together, my brother.

And yes, we are trying to build a democracy, right Lim.. har har


#2/02/2005 06:14:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger emigre

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#2/02/2005 07:37:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger emigre

I feel, Bluefinger, that you may be overlooking one very important thing. A decision not to vote is in effect a vote. You have heard of the vote of no-confidence? This is the vote people are entitled to cast, under democracy, when they have no confidence in their leaders.

When one is not satisfied that the options one has been offered are sufficient, one has the right to decline that offer. If someone gave you the choice between killing 10,000,000 people and 10,000 people while you would rather kill no people, it is perfectly reasonable to reject the options offered. There are always other options and creating these is an inspirational way to lead life.

It is reasonable to decline unreasonable offers in politics just as it is reasonable to turn down the advances of toads and salamanders when one might prefer a princes hand.

As yourself, AnaRki13 and that deviant Lim say, we are all in this together and our togetherness is stronger when we can share our differing approaches without sacrificing too many lambs. (Otherwise we might reach a point where we cannot even tickle one another with an off-colour joke or two ~ and what a grim humourless world that would result in).

#2/02/2005 09:14:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger madtom

"I feel, Bluefinger, that you may be overlooking one very important thing. A decision not to vote is in effect a vote. You have heard of the vote of no-confidence? This is the vote people are entitled to cast, under democracy, when they have no confidence in their leaders."

The big difference here is that "they" would not only chose not to vote for themselves, but they also like to chose for others too. It's is one thing to live in a democracy and decide to sit it out and another to close the door on people that want to vote.

#2/02/2005 01:49:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger emigre


And so your comment works well in reverse also. It is all very well to rush forward with things just because one is in a hurry, but when one is trying to make everybody all rush out the door at the same time ~ well, let's just say sometimes it's best to wait till a concensus decision is reached.

It can take longer but sometimes giving things time actually makes them stronger.


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