Wednesday, November 09, 2005

Comment moderation

I expect a number of bloggers will be happy to hear about this, blogger has introduced comment moderation to blogspot.

Should Iraq Blog Count use comment moderation? If you have reason to object, or not, please lodge your reasoned objection, or not, in a comment (which will be reviewed) or by email.

Update:


  • If no-one says anything should a yes be accepted by default and comment moderation turned on?
  • Should administrators be able to moderate comments or should all blog members?


UPDATE:
general consensus so far - moderation by blog contributors. Switched it on. All blog contributors are able to moderate comments. See you later, am tired of everybody yelling murder. If you don't hear from me I'm probably secreted in the attic awaiting reprisal attacks (for real). I don't suppose it's occurred to anyone that the scapegoat in waiting here is the same one as usual. Only a matter of time. Only a matter of time now. Already references to "jewish terrorism" are creeping into our headlines, adorned by subtle implication. The most unfashionable faith of all. So be it. I await trial.

More UPDATE: Does anyone find this strange? Where do all these factions come from, and why do some parties seem so keen to have them all throw bricks at each other. Did it ever occur to anyone, that tension between Israel and Palestine is just the ticket to keep the ME in perpetual feudal disorder, the perfect climate for sowing seeds of deceit and reaping revenge? Oh sure, toss in a few theocracies and pseudo democracies, shake a few hands and put a show on the road every once in a while. But by Cain, pentagon strategy lies in pitting neighbours against one another, by doling out reward and punishment on whim without reason, by spreading rumour, and by generally keeping one poverty stricken group hurling insults at another poverty stricken group. Where is the tension? On the margins. On the borders, where two factions in extremism are provoked to regale one another with obscenity if not outright violence. Is anybody tired of this yet? If the number of bloggers apparently boycotting their blogs is any indication, a good number are tired of it.

37 Comments

#11/09/2005 08:23:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger Bruno

Moderation? Oh, come on, so that the delightful comments we get from our resident troll get deleted? I wouldn't dream of it.

[Translated: Moderation good. Moderation by blog members only. No moderation by commenters.]

 
#11/09/2005 02:48:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger Aunt Najma

Moderation is a dream coming true!! :D
I wrote them (Along with Hassan) asking for this feature a couple of times.. Guess it is democratic in the blogsphere after all ;)

Moderation: Good
Moderationg by all blog members so they can moderate FAST! Right?
At least, for the ones who want to..
And a Yes should be the default.. Though so far, the majority chose YES..

 
#11/09/2005 04:34:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger richsanter

i agree with the previous 2 losers. if you're already deleting and leaving whatever comments you want everyone to see, is this really any different? like less than 10 people actually view this blog anymore, so why not ruin it further?

[Translated: Moderation good. Moderation by emigre only. No other blog member should be allowed to look at this blog. It belongs to emigre now.]

 
#11/09/2005 04:45:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Moderation! Big Brother in the blogosphere. Hey, it's just great for diversity and opening ones mind to new opinions. Yep, just great for resolution of conflict through open debate.

Might as well just close the comment section.. As did all the other insurgent bloggers and thier screen of apologists.

Elie

 
#11/09/2005 05:50:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger Truth About Iraqis

Emigre hon go ahead and use it so you can filter out the trash.

Speaking of that, Richsanter, this blog has been mentioned in numerous articles, so if you're really thinking ONLY 10 people are reading this site, well good luck.

Maybe you still believe the WMD thingy.

Oh hey, if you do, I have two towers I wanna sell ya.

 
#11/09/2005 06:02:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

1/3 Truth, I'll 'raise' you a city for those two towers that you have. What the heck, I'll raise you two cities. Going to be another proud day when the time for Ramadi draws near. Wish that I could be there for that one.


Elie

 
#11/09/2005 07:50:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger ihath

All things are good in moderation.

Even comments.

:-)

I vote yes to moderation

 
#11/09/2005 11:07:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger richsanter

iraqi liar, you're a real prick for even mentioning that. your personal attacks disgust me. its people like you that give islam a bad name. since you're already going to hell, why dont you strap on a bomb and go blow up some eldery people or some little girls to help with your resistance?

 
#11/09/2005 11:25:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger Truth About Iraqis

Rich,

Don't you ever feel ashamed for using such foul language?

It doesn't do you well, you know.

It just shows yet again, that Americans simply cannot debate an issue without bringing up foul language to defend their positions.

You look like a fool.

Word of advice, stop using foul language. You might lend yourself a chance to come down off the tree and evolve.

Elie, thanks for showing us what you really feel about Iraq.

Ramadi is a vibrant city that has resisted your murderous horde and so you want to wipe it off the map.

Including killing innocent civilians.

But you're a racist hiding under a white hood. Innocent civilians who are Arabs and Muslims are not innocent to your ilk.

Keep talking - the more you do, the more of your true nature is revealed.

 
#11/10/2005 12:50:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger Rob

Hey, it's your blog! Do what you wish. You have the freedom now to do whatever you want.

 
#11/10/2005 02:06:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger richsanter

iraqi liar, you are nothing more than a filthy sandnigger. tomorrow your camel will get sick and you wont be able to get to work, inshallah. why do you even care about what i think, shouldn't you be out stoning women and beheading infidels? hopefully your family will be the victims of terrorist car bombs, inshallah. your family will be kidnapped and have their heads cut off on tv, inshallah. i will smile when that day comes....inshallah.

 
#11/10/2005 03:18:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

1/3, if I thought you were innocent I would be concerned. However, sadly,it's people like you who bring out the lack of concern in people like me. It's your distortion of the truth. It's your seeming lack of wisdom. Your one-sided search for concern without giving any that brings out the lack of concern within those like me.

Ramadi probably will go down. And it will be a good thing. Not only for all those who innocently attempt to raise a family there. But also for those 18/19 year old video game playing boys and girls who ring the city in an attempt to bring comfort to those innocents.

Like Falluja, Ramadi will be better for it. As will the future of Iraq.

Why do people like you persist. You will never bring back the status quo... if that is your desire! What you are succeding in doing is creating a vast, bloody and hopeless division which may never be healed.. Hell, I don't know, perhaps the division was already there for eons and just now exposed to the rest of the world. Saddam certianly was aware of his need for ruthless strength. Your Shia and Kurdish population will never get back in the bag. Surely you know this. How could you, an educated person, cling to such a hope? You know, I think that even know people like you are being left behind by Sunni who are much wiser and realize that the only way out of becoming an isolated expanse of desert within what used to be called Iraq... is to take part in the political process. As much as they have to swallow thier pride.. The know it has to be done. Otherwise, it's a ruthless, backward spit of desert called Anbar that isolated they will inhabit.

Get with the program, brother.

Elie

 
#11/10/2005 06:31:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger Truth About Iraqis

Rich and Elie,

Keep talking. Honestly.

Because the more racist you get, the more you prove my point, the more you show you have no argument save argument itself, and the more you show what kind of society produced the both of you.

Seriously, keep at it.

I couldn't be more delighted.

Rich, do you even realise how much of a hate-monger you sound?

You really think that makes you look good?

It makes you look pitiful.

That someone could wish so much harm visited on another.

I pity you, Rich. You must lead an empty life and lash out in this way because you are bitter.

Find a friend. Join a club. Hug someone. Get a pet.

Such hatred does neither you, nor your people any good.

Sad.

 
#11/10/2005 09:03:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger Bruno

[elie] "Truth, I'll 'raise' you a city for those two towers that you have. What the heck, I'll raise you two cities."

Elie, you won't 'raise' a city but you will RAZE it. Americans can't raise anything in Iraq. They can only destroy. Why, even the UN has reccommended that hundreds of millions of dollars be restored to Iraq due to the terrible worksmanship of the US contractors there.

 
#11/10/2005 12:53:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

20% Truth,

I don't consider you an Amman collaborator, but without question, you are an Amman patsy.

It is people like you that make people like me look twice at the innocent hijab wearing lady gathering groceries next to me in the supermarket.

I can only hope that assimilation is going better here than France. Even more fervently, I hope that the ME becomes an area of the world to escape to, instead of from.

Not even worth arguing about, Bruno. Worthwhile construction will not take place until a certain level of security is restored. That won't happen until the Sunni see politics as a means to legitimately express themselves. This coming election will make or break Iraq. I think it will be made.

Where is Not?

Elie

 
#11/10/2005 02:41:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger Bruno

[elie] "Worthwhile construction will not take place until a certain level of security is restored. That won't happen until the Sunni see politics as a means to legitimately express themselves."

Peace for the USA will not occur until security is restored. Security will not be restored until Americans see negotiations and compromise as a means to legitimately secure their country, as opposed to barbarism.

My dear Elie, YOU STARTED this fight. Unfortunately that makes YOU the aggressor and in the wrong.

I guess that this lesson will just have to be beaten into your thick skulls. It is really so sad, if one thinks of it.

Not is busy.

 
#11/10/2005 02:43:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger Bruno

[elie] "Yep, just great for resolution of conflict through open debate."

Coming from an American that sure is rich ...

(Notice the double meaning? Man, I'm on fire!)

 
#11/10/2005 03:25:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

No, we're ending the fight Bruno. It was started long ago by apologists, dupes and the insane extremists of that proud religion which is so easily hijacked.

Iraq is the opportunity. Some would say it's the salvation of the ME. The one chance it has.

Elie

 
#11/10/2005 04:07:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger Aunt Najma

Elie and Richsabter,
When are you ever going to sense it? WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE!!
Some people just don't take hints!!

Emigre, moderated comments will save me headaches, and hitting that trash icon under Richsanter's comments.

TAI, there's no use talking to someone with no ears.. Tell them it's white, they'll say it's black, tell them it's black, they'll say it's white. That's what comments taught me, and what you already know!!

 
#11/10/2005 04:59:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

When are you ever going to sense it? WE DON'T WANT TO BE THERE!!

But, we have to. You have not been able to keep Mideastern intolerance from affecting our lives. We have learned that it's in our interest to resolve your problems. And it does not matter what you think.... because, in the end, we are not doing it for you. Your ability to say as you please. To speak what you truly think. To have input into who rules you... is a side benifit. It's part of the package that comes with our self-preservation.

You have to understand our resolve. In the end, it is YOU who brought us there. More so, the blind apology of your fathers generation.


Elie

ps... comment moderation won't bring visitors back to yours or your fathers websites. The only reason people come is for discussion, pro or con. You take out the con and the pros get bored playing with themselves. Go ask 20% truth about that. I'm sure he's experianced this as well. By the way, start peacefully marching in the streets of Mosul. If you get enough people, enough attention... it spreads throughout Iraq... We'll leave, sis. Express yourself. It won't happen though, will it. Of course, because at this time most want us to stay until some form of security is realized. Hopefully this will be very soon. Work on it, will ya!

 
#11/10/2005 05:21:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger Bruno

[elie] "If you get enough people, enough attention... it spreads throughout Iraq... We'll leave, sis."

Bullshit. The Sadrists mustered around 300000 against the occupation in Firdous Square, and it never even made a blip on the US radar. The people that protested in Fallujah got mowed down by assult rifles. Talabani himself said that he lacks the ability to forbid the US Army to do whatever it wants in Iraq

 
#11/10/2005 05:24:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger richsanter

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#11/10/2005 05:30:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger Bruno

[elie] "Of course, because at this time most want us to stay until some form of security is realized."

Divide and rule Elie. Never fails, does it?

Make the Shia scared of the Sunni, the Sunni scared of the Kurds, the Kurds scared of the Turks; Iraqis scared of Iranians ... in the end they get played like a violin.

They all hate you, but they fear each other more than you.

And I WONDER who is responsible for the mysterious car bombs that go off from time to time, just when tensions start to subside a little. Zarqawi? Or the CIA?

 
#11/10/2005 05:33:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Bruno-

I know that I don't have to tell you this. Sadr is not 'real' people. He represents his interests alone.

And what the heck do you know about US News from your vantage in SA? You make yourself look foolish. I should not have to tell you that whatever access you have to news, we certainly have as well... Should I?

I'd give you more credit if everything you've ever written had not be awash with simple minded anti-americanism. And this at the expense of the majority of people in Iraq. What do you want more... US defamation or a legitimate political process in Iraq? You know how it looks, right?

Elie

 
#11/10/2005 05:33:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger Bruno

[rich] "najma, everyone already knows what kind of sick racist bitch you are from reading just one post on your site."

I thought I smelt something ... off. At first I thought it was the smell of Elie's deception, but this is worse ... much worse. Sorta like dead meat, and maggots and vomit and old, old socks.

Then it becomes clear. Lo! Rich has opened his mouth to say something ...

 
#11/10/2005 05:38:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Make the Shia scared of the Sunni, the Sunni scared of the Kurds, the Kurds scared of the Turks; Iraqis scared of Iranians ... in the end they get played like a violin.


Bruno-

A quick tour of Iraqs history will tell you that they have been playing each other since the dawn of time. We've just simply uncorked what has forever been there. Saddam simply had his thumb firmly on the lid.

We should end this discussion here. I see you have gotten to the bottom of your barrell and at your wits end. Bruno, why not assume men from mars are doing the car bombings? I'm not going to discuss idiocy with you.

 
#11/10/2005 05:39:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger Bruno

[elie] "I should not have to tell you that whatever access you have to news, we certainly have as well... Should I?"

Ah, sorry, that bit where Bush said "Gosh, lookee at all them eye-raqis protestin' Maybe we ain't wanted there" kinda slipped by me.

Feel free to direct me to the reports by say, CNN or Fox on how large the protests were and what implications this has for the US perceptions of Iraqi sentiment.

What *I* remember is the US psyops op that depicted 2 - 300 people in Firdous Square as a raging horde, when they pulled Saddam's statue down, and the huge coverage that got.



I could be wrong. Please, prove it.

 
#11/10/2005 05:45:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger Bruno

"Bruno, why not assume men from mars are doing the car bombings? I'm not going to discuss idiocy with you."


So basically you are denying the US would EVER run a black flag operation? Is that it?

I don't see what the Iraqi Resistance has to gain from promoting civil war. They stand to gain by persuading the "Shia" that in fact they are on the same side.

Remember why the first siege of Fallujah was called off? That's right, Shia pressure.

 
#11/10/2005 05:57:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

All the wild fantasies, imaginations and deception aside. We are progressively moving towards some type of equitable government. In December, Sunni will gain representation and some political future. Of late, the killing has been more out of hate and reprisal than of anything else. Even they, in whatever form of leadership they have, have come to realize thier efforts will not regain them dominance. It will never happen again. There is no hope but a political process.

Do you know what satellite television is, Bruno. You have 'cable' down there yet? Ever used the internet? The poorest American has broadband access.... even if it's just down the street at his nearest library. Educate yourself properly.


Elie

 
#11/10/2005 06:05:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger richsanter

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#11/10/2005 11:08:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger Aunt Najma

I don't call people older than us by their names but rather by (Uncle) and (Aunt), even a man I do not know. This is called manners, something parents teach us, something polite people teach us..

Richsanter, keep your mouth clean and behave.. It's a shame to call you (Uncle) I'd just like to curse you, but again, there's something called manners..

Google it!

Emgire, SOS..

Elite, you don't have to stay here, we can pretty much survive here without you.. Believe me!!!

 
#11/11/2005 04:58:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Has thou not heard of "New leaves", Em?


Partisan Hack, PH 101.... Elie

 
#11/11/2005 05:59:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Miriam

Choni,

The Blog is Your Home, your choice. I addressed the same issue on my blog, under Hidden Pearls and Shells. http://pearlsofiraq.blogspot.com/2005/11/hidden-pearls-and-shells.html

U have a right to stop slander and nasty in your home if you wish. Especially if people are stereotyping and attacking. I wonder if they would do that if they were allowed to walk into a physical home with all of us face to face?

 
#11/11/2005 06:02:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

Elie

Anon wouldn't know a new leaf if it opened up in front of him, he lives in a papermache compost heap of recycled meta-tags.

 
#11/13/2005 03:12:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Oldtimer

I am in the very uncomfortable position of disagreeing with the people I admire most in the blogsphere and agreeing with the statement:

"Big Brother in the blogosphere. Hey, it's just great for diversity and opening ones mind to new opinions. Yep, just great for resolution of conflict through open debate."--Elie

I find it very disturbing that someone (anyone) is deciding what I should and should not read. I prefer to make that decision. When someone (anyone) controls what information is available. I immediately distrust the venue.

I remember a time when we 'policed' ourselves by ignoring trolls and didn't depend on any one person or persons but a collective of NO's.

I guess that time has passed and I can't help being saddened by it.

 
#11/13/2005 03:51:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Oldimer

My last word:

Moderation? Oh, come on, so that the delightful comments we get from our resident troll get deleted?

Doesn't the resident troll provide incentive to fight? Does he not provide a window into how 'the enemy' thinks? I believe the trite sayings: 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer' or 'Know thy enemies.'

Such hatred does neither you, nor your people any good.

Yes, but erasing/excluding it won't make it go away and I take comfort in seeing how bankrupt and pathetic the heartless bigots are.

When TAI said: "Keep talking - the more you do, the more of your true nature is revealed." I couldn't agree more.

Lastly, reading Bruno's reasoned, human arguments helps me hone my own and I will miss that!

 
#11/15/2005 08:34:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Shosha

>Where is Not?

Hiding. He can come out now.

She's gone and she's not coming back.

 

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