Monday, June 06, 2005

Until the end of time...

Saddam to be tried for "the killing of tens of thousands" who "rose up against him in 1991". Good. Next can we trial Bush (plural) please, for "the killing of tens of thousands" who have "risen up against him (plural)". It shouldn't take long to whip up some kind of a case, if Saddam's trial is any indication.

Saddam Hussein could face up to 500 charges, but he will be tried on only 12 "thoroughly documented" counts because prosecuting him on all would be a "waste of time", the Iraqi government said. more

Maybe the war crimes Saddam/Bush/Abu Ghraib echo is putting a hold on the 500 other charges Saddam could be tried for. Maybe, if Saddam gets an easy trial then Bush and Co'd have an easy deal too. Wouldn't you think. If they get nabbed that is (don't worry 'bout trialing J Howard, his badly woven raft of platitudes is unraveling at the rate of knots an Orca wouldn't outswim. I expect we'll have him doing a concilatory spell in detention 'no time at all. Soon. Er or later. Blair wouldn't look bad in a neighbouring re-educative cell either).

War maketh the dictator.


#6/06/2005 11:41:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger liminal

I'm hearing you loud and clear Emigre. If we were to be real with ourselves, we all know that if Saddam were to truly get his day in court he would bring many current (ahem, Rumsfeld to name one) leaders into jail as well. I want Saddam to face a cruel fate. Because I'm against the death penalty (although I've considered making an exception for Saddam), I would probably rather him face the rest of his days in a deep dark prison. Similarly, in an ideal world Rumsfeld too would face a similar fate for aiding and abetting in the crimes against the Kurds because he so famously helped supply Saddam with WMD in the 80s. Ah, the tiresome details...the tiresome details the current government and tribunal against the former dictatorship of Iraq would omit from history.

Do the "victors" truly write history?

What I'm really wondering these days is, Who are the victorious at this moment in time? Who has won? And...will it have all been worth it? I hope so.

But I'm not sure anybody has won. I still want justice. For Saddam and all his cohorts...including those in the American government that so diligently supported him throughout the years.

I am against Saddam as much as I'm against those forces that strengthened him throughout his time ruling Iraq.

The Iraqi people should write their own history.

These blogs go a long way to accomplishing this through the personal stories we share with one another. And for this, I salute each of my brothers and sisters that blog from Iraq.

Perhaps I'm a romantic in this sense, but I really feel like we are making a deep contribution to the world when I look to the horizon.

Now where's that damn security?

#6/06/2005 11:51:00 am Assalam Aleikom Blogger liminal


Aiding and abetting in the crimes against the Kurds for sure...and then there's so many others across the spectrum of Iraqi society that suffered at the hands of Saddam...including members of my own family that face continual struggles because of his thugs.

Because of America's help in the past (the 80s, during the Shia uprising after the desert storm, and during other times), Saddam was aided in crushing his people. And who helped the rise of the Baath in its early days but America?

Even the UN (the sanctions) was used as a tool against the Iraqi people as a whole, while Saddam built his palaces.

Ah, the tiresome details...

Iraqis will not forget these details, the world must understand. And we still need true reconciliation for the terror issued in the name of Saddam and America if our dear Iraq will come out of this with more positivity than negativity.

Let me be Frank. You can be Peter, Paul, or Mary.

#6/06/2005 07:49:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger Bill

Words and music by L. Hays and P. Seeger
If I had a hammer
I'd hammer in the morning
I'd hammer in the evening ... all over this land,
I'd hammer out danger
I'd hammer out a warning
I'd hammer out love between all of my brothers and my sisters
All over this land.

If I had a bell
I'd ring it in the morning
I'd ring it in the evening ... all over this land,
I'd ring out danger
I'd ring out a warning
I'd ring out love between all of my brothers and my sisters
All over this land.

If I had a song
I'd sing it in the morning
I'd sing it in the evening ... all over this world,
I'd sing out danger
I'd sing out a warning
I'd sing out love between all of my brothers and my sisters
All over this land.

If I've got a hammer
And I've got a bell
And I've got a song to sing ... all over this land,
It's a hammer of justice
It's a bell of freedom
It's a song about love between all of my brothers and my sisters
All over this land.

#6/07/2005 02:24:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

its fantastic how emgire writes outrageous posts, then deletes anyone that contradicts her views. what an awesome blogroll this has become. one view by one group of people with an agenda. not even views from iraqi people, nonetheless. what is the purpose of this blog now, because it sure its about debate and information since that isnt be freely shared.

#6/07/2005 05:39:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

re: sea mammals

Bottlenose dolphins are known to be smart, but a study of tool use has emphasized just how clever these mammals can be. Female dolphins in an Australian bay seem to be learning from their mothers how to stick marine sponges on their noses to help them hunt for fish, researchers say.

"It is the first documented case of tool use in a marine mammal," says Michael Krützen of the University of Zurich, Switzerland, who led the study into how the trick is passed from one generation to the next. Rather than being an inherited trait, the tool use is probably being learned by daughter dolphins from their mothers, the researchers report in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

so. there ya go.

#6/07/2005 09:48:00 am Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Anonymous

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#6/07/2005 02:33:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Blogger emigre

Hi Lim

Likewise, hear you too.

Are blogs the scritch on the horizon of deeper change? Have we stumbled on history re-writing itself? (Through the words and hands of so many it's amazing anyone can make a word of sense from it).

I would tend to say both. And I still have no idea what to do with all our despots (global).

#6/08/2005 01:21:00 pm Assalam Aleikom Anonymous Bob


Showing your age, you are. Still, hammers and justice - vaguely on topic. More recent version (circa 1993).


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